Qobuz Connect is finally out of beta! Is dCS ready?

The benefit is that you can use the Qobuz app as you would if you were playing music on your phone or tablet but your DAC gets the music directly from the Qobuz servers - the music does not go through your phone. This results in more reliable streaming - possibly better sounding if you were using the Qobuz app and Airplay to your phone.

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I didn’t need to, it’s not really “new” as such, Qobuz Connect works in exactly the same way as Tidal Connect which I’ve experienced for years (as has Spotify Connect by the way, but only the wifey listens to Spotify though dCS, I don’t)

As for you hearing what you hear, well, knock yourself out, enjoy :rofl:

Knew the answer before asking :innocent:

Generally speaking, if the update from dCS is only to the network board - as in this case with support for Qobuz Connect - don’t bother doing listening comparisons for sound quality improvements, because the network board already originally supports bit-perfect asynchronous delivery. It cannot be improved.

When dCS delivers updates to the FPGAs, that’s when you ought to spend time doing listening comparisons.

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tried it and it works great! Thanks for the update.

As for sound - any given album sounds identical (as it should) when played through Qobuz direct, Qobuz through Mosaic, Qobuz through Roon and a digital download of the album purchased through Qobuz played through Roon.

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That has not been my experience.

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Yes, I’d imagine. :laughing:

Not saying which side I am on however many on this forum feel ROON (RAAT) does something to the sound. (despite Anup’s tests :laughing:)

As for the remaining scenarios in your post above - I agree

Was meant to post the other day but couldn’t log in but just wanted to show appreciation and thanks @ team DCS for getting Qobuz connect up and running​:+1::grinning:

Only thing i do miss which is a Qobuz thing is the playback controls not coming up on the Lock Screen of the phone/ iPad as that was quite handy to have.

Not sure with the way Connect works is something Qobuz can implement in the future but that’s not DCS problem!:laughing:

Thanks again DCS​:loud_sound::loud_sound:

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I get what you are saying, but isn’t that the case if you use Mosaic on Bartók Apex?

Yes it is but the Qobuz app is a nicer interface than Mosaic in my opinion.

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It’s a shame Qobuz can’t access one’s stored local music library?

Try JPlay which will integrate Qobuz,Tidal, and ripped files

If you have Qobuz app and Mosaic on the same device you can easily toggle between them . However I am wondering why you want UPnP to be on Qobuz? Is it because:

Let me show you something:

One is Qobuz Connect the other Mosaic. Apart from some minor details regarding controls they are virtually identical. How do you get that big image with Mosaic? Just swipe upwards from the white line at the screen bottom.

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If you look at “song” level the visual is not much different but at library level I prefer Qobuz.

Also like that you can search on Record label, ACT for instance, you get a nice view on the released albums and also a preview on albums to come (with date) and cover picture.

Could I have lived with just Mosaic, for sure, since I bought the Rossini in 2019 Mosaic has improved a lot. Qobuz connect is a nice bonus option

Just updated my Bartok and all seemed to go well. After I completed, I opened Mosaic and the got the program front page. And then the busy signal. And the Bartok screen showed a red message of No Input. And after a few seconds, Mosaic showed the opening page for a few seconds and then No Input. Any way to roll back and try to re-install the new version?

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It’s been a couple of years since I originally did that test. Since then, WireShark actually added Roon/RAAT as a supported protocol, so, anyone can analyse how it works and examine for a fact whether or not it has the potential to affect sound quality.

Most folks believe RAAT it’s a proprietary protocol that affects sound quality differently than say UPnP or Streaming from Internet Music Services.

While the control-plane aspects of RAAT is completely proprietary to Roon - i.e device discovery, playback controls, metadata, end-point group synchronisation, etc - the fact is, the underlaying transport protocol which moves music files from Server to End-Points is exactly the same - UPnP, Roon, Online Streaming Services - they all use the same standard TCP streams. Nothing proprietary at all.

Which leaves digital-signal-processing of the source as the only potential avenue for sound quality differences. Which can be turned On or Off in Roon, and when turned off, Roon is objectively verifiably a completely bit-perfect transport.

Of course, none of this information is going to magically change the minds of those who believe they hear differences :wink:

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As I understand it, Mosaic is limited in what it can support w.r.t to the Streaming Services like Qobuz, because of airable as the API intermediary for music catalog management.

That’s why I think qobuz connect is a nice addition next to Mosaic.

Also not perfect, to turn the Rossini on from standby the Qobuz app cannot be used ( I don’t expect it to do that, so not a problem)

Well, if your Rossini is in stand by, choosing it from the Qobuz app should turn it on already…