Sorry @PAR,
I don’t get your point here:
Goal of all the connect thing is to be able to send the streaming of either Tidal or Qobuz from their respective apps, without any need of Mosaic.
So why would a Mosaic only update be needed/enough?
To me a firmware update on the DAC side (network board) is mandatory here…
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Thanks Erwan. What you say is not quite correct.
Qobuz Cbnnect allows Qobuz to stream music directly to compatible audio devices. So the device ( in this questioner’s case a Network Bridge), has therefore o be compatible. The questioner is concerned that his NB will not be as it is now a legacy product.
In this case and in the case of other dCS units with streaming capability, compatibility is achieved via a revision to Mosaic app ( similar to the revision that was necessary for Tidal Connect).
Note that the Mosaic app is a control unit and only provides access. It has no music data function. Qobuz Connect will function as advertised (directly).
Wait and see 
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@PAR Pete is correct, see the Release Notes when the Mosaic update provided Tidal Connect:
And also you @Erwan are correct. The Mosaic update will also bring Qobuz Connect to the Mosaic streaming firmware.
The confusion probably comes from not fully understanding what dCS Mosaic actually is:
From: https://dcsaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/articles/4445965727132-User-Manual-Mosaic#heading--intro_1
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Ok.
Here we have a client server architecture.
Where the client, the “app”, is either the Mosaic software or Roon or … you install on an IOS/Android phone/tablet/whatever.
The server here resides on the hardware device, and can be modified to some extent via firmware updates.
Strictly speaking, non Mosaic app user should be able to upgrade their device firmware via the network board web interface, and still benefit the Qobuz connect feature to come…
So to me, claiming the update of the Mosaic app only will suffice to support a “new communication protocol” on the server side, is somewhat quite misleading…
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Correct. New streaming functionality typically requires an update to both the network board firmware and the Mosaic app whereas cosmetic changes or fixes to the app may not require any changes to the network board firmware.
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Apologies @Erwan I think I misinterpreted your post and was thinking of hardware not firmware. You are indeed correct.
No problem @PAR
Hi Phil,
Is there any update on the status of Qobuz Connect on dCS kit?
Thanks
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I think I know the reply already, but have there been progresses? Is it nearing completion? Or still weeks/months away?
Andrea, Phil posted this only yesterday:
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https://dcs.community/t/support-for-qobuz-connect/7723/11
Should these topics be merged?
That makes sense to me. Only moderators can do this so @Phil ?
Done, thanks for raising 
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I’m not sure. Going by your logic Roon should sound as good as Mosaic but I hear improvements from Mosaic.
Do we have to go down the Roon vs. Mosaic road yet again on this Qobuz thread?? Seriously? 
In any case, let’s be honest, no amount of me trying to explain the technical nature of how things actually work is going to make any difference to you whatsoever because clearly you only believe in purely subjective impressions.
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I believe the truth lies in both. The history of audio is full of event of sonic improvement that science catches up to later as new understanding or new measurement techniques emerge.
Clearly thats not the case since even in the face of obvious facts you chose to believe your subjective view. Plus all of your posts to date makes it clear you only believe in subjective impressions.
Anyway, I’ll give it one more go w.r.t Qobuz Connect sounding different to Qobuz/Mosaic:
The simple fundamental fact is that in order to sound different, there has to be a difference in the stream of data presented to the Ring DAC.
Regardless of whether it’s with Qobuz via Mosaic or Qobuz Connect, the stream of data pulled down from Qobuz’ Servers and presented to the Ring DAC will be identical.
How do I know this for a fact?
Because (a) thats how the Internet works, and why your online bank balance doesn’t change regardless of the browser you use, there’s really only one way to pull data down from Qobuz Servers, (b) Qobuz/Mosaic and Qobuz Connect are merely control-points, they don’t change the music data, and (c) this is exactly how things work with Tidal/Mosaic versus Tidal Connect today,
Of course if you exist in your alternate-facts reality then they will all sound different 
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The problem with this view (which seems common among EEs) is that you only see the world in black and white (ie. existing theories) and are not open to a sense of a wonder that eventually leads to discovery and getting a better understanding of the world.
Reliance solely on measurements not only misses a lot of what audio is about but it dismisses valid observations from intelligent audiophiles with strong critical listening skills.
it doesn’t help to live in a world of alternate facts.