Naims new troubles

Well it’s certainly been going on in the naim forums after the latest few firmware updates they have done.
Basically they took 11 months to implement a few new bits and necessary updates to the streaming side.
The one in november came with a nasty sound that lots with the ND555 hated. They then tried again and it’s better but still not great by all accounts.
Owners waiting for naim to say something but nothing, then now they are saying thats it, its the best we can do.
But reading what some are trying with switching bits on and off, plugging usb sticks in and out, etc, etc. Its just shocking to read it all.

Anyway after the latest announcement, i wounder how many might make the large jump over to dCS. I have certainly showed one naim owner with a ND555 and twin power supplies what he is missing and he was totally blown away with how it sounded and that was before all this firmware problems.

So basically any naim owners thinking of pulling the plug say hi in here :laughing:
Wake up and start to enjoy how digital can sound, also junk that naim pre amp while you are at it.
But if you fancy wasting a few hours off your life go take a read on the naim forum, it will certainly open your eyes up, especially if you have a good idea how things like this work, i dont but my mate does, and he cannot believe what i have told him is going on.
Cheers dunc

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… well I came here from there … does that count?

Phil

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Seems like you were irreplaceable :wink:.

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You are preaching to the already converted.
All of us are already here :laughing:

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Replaced my NDX2 for an dCS Lina and never looked back for a moment.

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moved from HDX, NDAC, NDX, NDX2, ND555 to Rossini :wink:

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I traded in all my Naim stuff,NDS/555PS,CDX2/XPSDR,NAC252/SupercapDR and NAP300DR for Bartok annd Soulution 311/325 amps.
Had nothing to do with the troubles as mentioned here though,just wanted to try something else. But very happy with the move.

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I’ve never used nor tried any of the Naim products here, especially their digital boxes as they’re not attractive to me. However, their Naim Statement 3 boxes amps are incredible, among the few best I’ve ever heard.

My son has a Naim Dac connected to a dCS Network Bridge, it works great and the sound is fantastic.

But its firmware is not upgraded for years…Hopefully, as it seems…

20 year 552DR-500DR owner, and before going digital in 2011 with Linn Klimax DS, Naim CDS3 and CD555.

Linn KDS was replaced with Rossini in 2020
552-500 replaced with DarTZeel pre + amp in 2023 (thank you @all2ofme)
Rossini just morphed into Vivaldi

I still have my AVOptions rebuilt Nait 2 :smile:

How can I do that as well? Magic !!!

NO…MONEY :joy:

I knew you would say that…

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I have been a convert since 2015 on digital front (Puccini>bartok>rossini) and since 2023 ditched the naim pre as well (252/300DR to 350 only)

Amen

And…I’ve replaced my NDX2 with a Bartók APEX.:+1::smirk:

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Congratulations, very good choice the Bartok. :+1:t2:

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Bartok APEX will run rings around your NDX2.
Most likely around a ND555 as well

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It does for an NDS I can tell from own experience. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Hi Gregg
I won’t be able to do a back to back comparison as my NDX2 and XPSDR will be winging it’s way to my dealership. So they’ll pass like ‘ships in the night’.
If it’s anything to go by, I had a Bartók back in 2020, which was unbelievable! Why did I part with it? Financial complications.:wink:

Any improvement on the previous Bartók, will be a huge bonus.

Hi David

I purchased the original Bartok in 2020 as well. I intended to expressly use it in a headphone only system in a different room. The previous main system (552DR/500DR) had a Linn Klimax DS (fully updated) fronting it since 2011.

I felt the Bartok was 90-95% of the Linn at half the cost. That is what encouraged me to try Rossini+Clock - and the combination handily kicked the Linn out of the big Naim system and onto headphone duties (where it still is today).

The Bartok APEX is significantly better than the OG. I think you will be VERY happy

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