Cable for Bartok

[simon68 (simone)]

if I have an all balanced circuit, between amplifier and Bartok, do I have any advantages in terms of quality? or just a bigger gain?

[Ermos (Erno)]

[FAQ] Which DAC output is better – balanced or unbalanced?

The balanced output uses complex class-A stages, they give noticeably better sound quality than the much simpler unbalanced output stages. The balanced outputs behave like coupling transformers so they can drive an unbalanced input provided that XLR connector pin 3 is connected to pin 1 at the end of the cable farthest from the DAC. Used like this, you may find that muting clicks are more noticeable. We recommend using the unbalanced outputs to drive an unbalanced input.

[simon68 (simone)]

pin 3 of the XLR connector is connected to pin 1 at the end of the cable furthest from the DAC
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thanks, but i didn’t understand this

[stkorphy]

I use Iconoclast UPOCC XLR gen 2. Very happy with this setup.

[all2ofme (Ben (www.tasmanbayaudio.co.nz))]

Me too with the Iconoclast UPOCC XLRs — very happy indeed.

[Ermos (Erno)]

@simon68

thanks, but i didn’t understand this

Then please just understand that connecting the balanced out of your Bartók to the balanced in of your amp, using proper balanced XLR cables, is giving the best results.

[arzojaan]

@Ermos

The Gryphon offer their own cables. Maybe a good idea to test them in your setup:

There is a suspicion that it is Siltech inside, maybe…
Griffon himself does not manufacture cables…

[Ermos (Erno)]

I have no idea if this is actually a Siltech cable, but if it is, not too bad at all.

[Alchemist]

Hi Simon,

I have the same setup, Bartok into a Diablo 300. I am using Siltech classic 770i XLR cables and very happy with it. If I were you I’d look at their newly released classic legend series.
If you’re interested in those cables, I can pass the details of my dealer as he’s been awesome in helping me setup my system.

Cheers.

[simon68 (simone)]

thanks, it would be interesting to make a comparison with the Nordost Tyr2 rca that I have, which are already a good level …

[Alchemist]

I believe I have good results as well because I am using the full siltech loom.
Depends what other cables you are using and which end result you want to achieve.
What’s the rest of your setup?

[simon68 (simone)]

I have nordost valhalla 1 cables as power supply, tyr2 rca as signal and Heimdall2 for speakrs ( Gryphon Mojo) , I wanted to take advantage of the balanced circuit of the Gryphon now that I have the Bartok

[Alchemist]

then it might make sense for you to stay in the nordost line. Ask a dealer to test a pair of XLR?

[simon68 (simone)]

yes, in fact my idea is to try the same Tyr2 in xlr version, even Silitech if it happens I’ll try them

[anon30536008]

I run ChordMusic XLR cables from the Bartók to a Stax headphone amp and am happy with the very organic and authentic result. The power cables connecting Bartók, Stax amp and Vivaldi clock to the power distributor are CordMusic too. As @Alchemist commented above, sticking to a brand or line makes sense. Otherwise we run the risk of getting lost while making cable choices for each connection.

In a former system I used to connect a Naim streamer to a Woo headphone amp using a Nordost Odin 2 RCA interconnect. Diminishing returns yes, but very nice. Ansuz Acoustics was founded by a former Nordost employee, so their cables might be worth a listen. I only know the direct comparison between the Nordost Odin 2 power chord and different Ansuz power chords. And in my ears the Ansuz power chords eclipsed the Nordost at lower price points.

[simon68 (simone)]

i have an Ansuz c1 as a coaxial cable between naim cdx2 and bartok, a really nice result

[simon68 (simone)]

@anon30536008

power chord Ansuz.

which model of power chord Ansuz? I am now using Valhalla 1

[anon30536008]

@simon68

which model of power chord Ansuz? I am now using Valhalla 1

In my system the run from the wall socket to the Ansuz Mainz8 D·TC power distributor is a D2 cable. Together with the ChordMusic power cables from the distributor to the gear I am more than satisfied. I feel no need to tinker with power delivery from here on. (Until further notice )

Last year I sat in a demonstration run by two Ansuz employees. They plugged in the Odin 2 power chord for comparison. I don’t recall the model of the Ansuz power chord that started sounding better overall to my ears than the Odin, but it was less costly for sure.

[Lele80]

Hi @simon68,
if you are interested, I have opened another thread similar to yours (I had not seen it).

Which cables for Bartók + Diablo 300?

I have bartok + diablo 300 and magico A3. I am using siltech classic anniversary line 770 full loom, xlr, sc and pc. They’re very neutral, dynamic, organic and balanced cables. Don’t mix brands for cables, go for one and get all the cables the same brand. The siltech power cords are good enough for this setup. For the voltage I find 2v works best for me. For the power, if you can try to put a dedicated line, one for the bartok and one for the diablo. It makes a huuuuge difference, better t…

[T-elmi (Stuart W)]

Slight thread drift -

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This is a recent change with which I am very content, the Atlas Mavros provide a slightly less bright presentation whilst retaining clarity when compared with other cables in this price range.

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