Hello,
I’ve been enjoying using a LINA DAC X for about six months now. It’s connected directly to a MOON power amplifier, so I’m using the LINA’s preamp function.
I would really appreciate it if, in the LINA’s settings via the MOSAIC app, it were possible to choose the volume level display mode. Currently, we have an attenuator that goes from -80 to 0, from low to high volume. For those who prefer, a 0 to 100 display would be ideal. My wife complains every day about this display, which she finds illogical. And I must admit, I agree with her… It’s just a small software improvement, but it would bring peace and quiet to my relationship.
What do you think?
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Bonjour,
J’utilise avec grand plaisir un LINA DAC X depuis environ 6 mois. Il est raccordé directement à un amplificateur de puissance MOON. J’utilise donc la fonction pré-ampli du LINA.
J’aimerai beaucoup que, dans les fonction de paramétrage du LINA via l’application MOSAIC, il soit possible de choisir le mode d’affichage du niveau sonore. Actuellement, nous avons un atténuateur qui passe de -80 à 0, du volume bas au volume haut. Il faudrait ajouter pour ceux qui préfèrent, un affichage de 0 à 100.
ma femme peste tous les jours devant cet affichage qui lui semble illogique. Et j’avoue être d’accord avec elle…
Ce n’est juste qu’une petite évolution logicielle, mais elle apporterai de la sérénité dans ma vie de couple.
Qu’en pensez-vous ?
Although the volume control may go down to -80dB if you want tom use attenuation lower than -40 dB this is not recommended, In fact it means that you have set the line voltage output too high . Adjust the line voltage output via the menu so that the volume range that you use is more reasonable and suits the input sensitivity of your power amp. That is why the facility has been provided.
0 - 100 is a totally artificial arbitrary number with no point of reference.
Whereas with dCS, the volume number shown in negative decibel values indicates how much the signal is attenuated. So, the larger the number, the higher the attenuation, and 0.0dB is no attenuation and full output.
It might be artificial, OK. But not without a point of reference, quite the opposite.
It’s natural to see a number increase along with the volume.
Low volume = small number
High volume = large number
Makes sense!
I’m simply proposing a software improvement. Everyone can then choose their preference. Purists will keep the original system; my wife will choose 0 to 100.
IMHO it does not make sense, because according to the output voltage settings, 100 could be either 0.2V or 0.6V or 2V or 6V, and that is rather confusing.
If 6V would be 100, then 2V would be 33 1/3, 0.6V would be 10 and 0.2V would be 3 1/3. Only showing the correct attenuation in dB from a given output voltage really makes sense.
To me, it’s a just a matter of display.
For mainstream users a 0% (mute) 100% (-0dB attenuation) range can make more sense.
We don’t have volume attenuation displayed in -dB on TVs for example, just a slide indicator or a % range, and no one complains…
So the request of an option to toggle between each way of presenting sound volume is valid IMHO, and could be done (although I wouldn’t use the %age myself )
Having followed the discussion I checked the volume controls on various types of appliance around my place.
Only the TV uses figures and these seem to be arbitrary. Everything else simply has one end labelled Min and the other Max. A few random blobs are placed between these extremes.
So we may be looking for an intuitive rather than a technically rational solution, The existing calibration from dCS is correct but, as an alternative, how about forgetting numbers and have a simple graphical display eg. Adding segments to a slope as volume increases?
Personally I wouldn’t want to loose the current dB attenuation GUI of the dCS volume control, but could see why some may prefer a simple % number indicating volume level in the way McIntosh does with their pre amps.
Welcome to the forum and thanks for this suggestion. Even if a 0-100 scale is a bit arbitrary I can understand how some users could find the notion of volume increasing from silence more intuitive than that of decreasing from full scale.
With all features the main issue we have to take a view on is the relative priority, as all development choices have an associated opportunity cost. The discussion here will help us form a view on how broadly this would be appreciated in the customer base, so I hope other forum members will chime in with their perspectives.
Personally, as I noted above, I would not want to loose the dB attenuation GUI. For those of us who use a dCS dac as a pre amp (and switch between the 6V and 2V output) it is helpful to know how much the signal is being attenuated to keep the volume in the sweet spot.
Hello Urban,
I am not proposing to remove the current display. I'm just proposing to add one more possibility. It is then up to everyone to choose their preference.
Kind regards.
There’s a nice little Volume control touch from dCS that I never noticed before in my >20 years of dCS ownership!!!
When adjusting the Volume level, once it goes below -50dB, attenuation increments are in 1dB, whereas above -50dB, attenuation decrements are in 0.5dB!
First noticed it on my Varèse, but when I went back to my Bartok it’s the same! Has it always been this way?
(Reminds me of my old Mark Levinson No.32 Pre-Amp’s Volume Control, it was similarly “non-linear” and was the smoothest volume control I’ve ever experienced @ 0.1dB increments).
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