Yeah, some ways 
But a Mezger engine any day for me. Everything else felt broken after that. (Well, until the i3 made everything petrol-powered feel silly.)
Without wanting to be part of the reason that this turns into a car threadā¦Iād be very keen on a Vivaldi One sans spinner. While it still has the optical drive, no interest for me. In the meantime, this Rossini Apex has a fantastic exhaust note.
Ive only had one stationary wing and the gt3 does come without although it gives up a half second to 60. The extra 150 hp isnt wasted but i definitely agree that gt3 isnt really a practical daily driver however the 911 may be the best made car on the road for a long time. That being saidā¦ i dont think the best rossini is a vivaldi but it wasnt designed to be. Better at some things and not as good as others. But it is a fine machine. .b
Agreed - same here. I ditched optical drives when I unloaded my Naim CD555 and moved to a Linn Klimax DS. Continued the same when the Linn was relegated to the headphones and the Rossini took its place.
Optical drives break - sooner or later - but always. The entire unit then needs to go back to the factory for repair.
Vivaldi One sans drive - count me in
No sorry, this doesnāt make sense. A Vivaldi one sans spinner could possibly cost the same as a Vivaldi DAC + Upsampler. The latter isolates power supplies better and is in all likelyhood a better solution. Plus if Vivaldi gets replaced by, say, the Rihanna DAC (rotfl) then you can reuse the Upsampler.
Maybe it is simply a Naim thing.
Every Naim owner I know (obviously myself included) has grown tired of the box count and the associated cabling. Many have moved on from their 500 level systems and adopted all in one super integrateds. As we get older there is a desire for simplicity (not that at 63 I consider myself old 
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There are rumours that Naim is listening to us. If not there is always Linn. The new NG Klimax DS with 2 simple ethernet cables going out to two active speakers. One box simplicity.
Quite honestly I would even be amenable to something along the lines at what @Dunc has discovered. I can take my Rossini+Clock and go right to an amplifier. Three boxes and done. Only problem - I would have to find a new home for my LP12 and 7k records. No problem though - with the Rossini most of my listening is done via streaming.
Iāll take those. Can pay for shipping! 
I do get that the full Vivaldi stack is a LOT.
All agreed, except by that logic the current Vivaldi One doesnāt make sense either 
Assuming we agree that the Vivaldi One likely sounds better than the Rossini we can probably also agree following your own logic that removing something (the optical drive) might be a good thing.
(Sure, keeping the Upsampler separate is likely better still, but box count, cables etc.)
Well, I would say it does in the sense of ONE unit that does EVERYTHING. One MASSIVE unit.
No Clock though. That Iām cool with being separate.
Synchronising two units with clock cables feels the right side of fussy. Maybe because Iām already doing it!
āThe post below was edited as Miguel caught my mistakeā
I know my dealer has sold at least two Vivaldi Ones, and both of them have the āclockā connected.
Vivaldi Apex + upsampler cost roughly 78.000ā¬
Guess that a Vivaldi One without CD transport would costs moreā¦
I share @glevethanās view re: box count, but I have an additional box for power conditioning and server. I have no LPs:
AQ Niagra
Nucleus
Rossini
R or V Clock (future)
I believe that the cabling industry as a whole is massively over-priced, and hate directing dollars there. I would much rather spend on DSP, amplification, speakers, and the music itself. Just meā¦
Re: original thread. The transport will eventually break, and so @miguelitoās idea of a Vivaldi One with no transport seems sensible to me.
Iām inclined to agree and always thought of cables as āicing on the cakeā. That said, my recent experiment with cables on the Rossini APEX and master clock has altered my perception somewhat. Exceptional cables are still expensive, but the changes being wrought feel very substantial.
Iād still agree that Iād rather spend money on the parts that actually reproduce the music, but perhaps (just perhaps) weāve reached a tipping point (in terms of price) where it is occasionally possible to bring about a greater improvement by upgrading the cables than by upgrading the components.
Iād love to test this by listening to a Vivaldi, but I donāt dare!
Having had a combined CD transport/DAC break after six years (not a dCS one), Iām inclined to agree that including the transport in a combined transport/dac/clock solution is asking for a world of pain at some point down the road. While I can see why people may want a single box solution which includes the transport, it seems a niche within a niche - very high-end HiFi listeners listening to physical media who want a single box solution.
I can see adding a clock but isnāt the Upsampler BUILT INTO the One?
Thanks for catching that. A complete brain fart on my part. Yes, I meant a clock.
I started this thread, because I was in doubt regarding the purchase of an ex-demo Vivaldi One.
I finally bought it and later I upgraded to Apex.
Though I seldom spin CD/SACD, having 3000+ CDs is good to have it.
Files from NAS , Tidal, CDs, SACDs, and Vinyl recordsā¦ too many.
That said, Vivaldi One sounds great, the analog sound is outstanding, but Clock is mandatory and clock cables, unfortunately matter a lot, I never expected that. I have tried 6 different ones and at last the most expensive of these made a final step difference.
Here are my 2 cents 
I can finally listen to the music and enjoy, I donāt think about the system anymore
Lmao at Rihanna Dac. I think the TayTay rolls off the tongue better.
So what did you conclude, regarding clock cables? Which worked best for you?