Hi Phil,
I’ve tried with different compatible files format (FLAC but also WAV and even MP3 just to see).
I mainly use physical CDs with my Rossini but since a friend of mine sometimes sends me music files, I’d like to try to listen to them on the fly through my high quality audio system.
OK so the first thing I’d suggest is if you have any way of sending me a link to one of the files - say via OneDrive or DropBox or WeTransfer then can you do so to [email protected] and I’ll pop the file onto a USB stick here and just check … it could be that the file has an unrecognised extension or something.
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Hi Phil,
I just sent you a Wetransfer with two of the files (FLAC) I tried to use.
I believe I heard that Audirvana and Amarra have a bypass of the apple mixer so that doesn’t affect sound quality.
And by stripped dow, I don’t want the bloatware that will look for all music files, offer radio type functions, etc.
I think that you have a fairly undefined mental concept of what you want.
Commercially available media players all offer many features. Otherwise they have no commercial viability. However many features are just options and are ( broadly) selectable by the user in the setup menus. They will not appear in the user GUI if not selected. Further the day to day interface you use will likely not be the computer screen but the related app on your phone or tablet which will only show what you have selected. However you will still need to understand how to set up and use the player and this requires learning.
You are going to need things like search and navigation features unless your music library consists of only a single album which you always want to hear all the tracks of.
You are now contradicting yourself by on the one hand sating that you don’t want what you consider “bloartware” but on the other by saying that the issue over the the Mac mixer can be solved by Audirvana or Amarra which, of course, have all of those additional features that you say that you don’t want.
The reality is that whatever you are thinking about probably does not exist in practice. Your choice in reality is one of the media player applications such as the two mentioned above. Of course if you know a software designer he/she might be able to write a custom program but you will need to define the specifications, Probably not a realistic idea.
Hi @KatJoe
I haven’t received any WeTransfer links yet through to support@ … could you resend to me at [email protected]?
Thanks
Phil
Hi Phil,
I just sent you the files through Wetransfer (and received the notification that they were sent correctly).
If you don’t see anything, check your spam folder too.
Thanks so much.
Hi @KatJoe
Yup - that one I got and have downloaded them … I’ll get them onto a USB stick and check whether they are “seen” there later today.
On topic - I agree with other posts - a NAS / UpNP solution far better than the USB stick
re computing devices and software playback - few comments…
It is a trivial task for any good spec, properly configured modern computer using the correct software to deliver bit perfect data to a DAC. Once the stream gets going, Roon (with no DSP) takes less resources than Activity Monitor! Older machines may run into issues if you are multi tasking - esp with solutions that require audio - this will mess you up! But from a purely objective standpoint, audio stream data transfer failure is rare even with USB - and you will know as you will hear drop outs!
Roon will also deliver bit perfect data via exclusive mode (provided all the DSP stuff is turned off). I ran Roon on a Mac Mini via USB when I had an RME dac and confirmed through their test files that data was being delivered bit-perfectly. Audirvana does as well.
I don’t have experience with other 3rd party players. The Apple Music players on iOS and MacOS are a different story.
I have the same issue with my Rossini Apex and started another thread about it, but never really bothered contacting customer support as I never use the USB input but once it’s there I’d expect it to work.
Switching the Rossini off and leaving it off for a while then switching it back on sometimes makes the content of the USB come up again but then after a while it gets lost again. Sometimes you have to repeatedly turn it off to make it work. A bit of a hit and miss.
Regardless of size, format, type, power requirement, etc.
Hi Tom,
you’re absolutely right. Just yesterday I’ve tried one more time and I was able to finally see the content of one of my flash drives.
Nothing really different from my previous tests but this time it worked. I connected the flash drive while the Rossini was switched off (the power switch in the back was set to on anyway) and when I switched it back on and press the menù button for a couple of seconds the display showed me “Please wait” instead of the usual “Folder is empty” and then it showed me the root directory of the flash drive. Then I was able to play the music (FLAC files) contained the USB stick.
It almost seems as if the USB port sometimes enters a sort of sleep state from which it wakes up after a few attempts to turn it on and off (even though before yesterday it had not been enough to turn the Rossini off and on again)…
Can I ask what SIZE, make and model of drive you are using on your units?
Thanks
Phil
As I said none of these really matters, tried different size make and model with the same results.
Hi Phil,
I have tried at least 3 different ones, all under 32 GB and all new and already formatted FAT32. The last one was a 16 GB SanDisk.
Initially it was not recognized (with the usual message “Folder is empty”) but after the umpteenth attempt to turn off and on the Rossini it was finally recognized.
Could there be a situation where the Rossini leaves the USB2 port without power?
My suspicion is that in the failed attempts the Rossini did not even try to access the USB stick and the “Folder is empty” message is absolutely identical to the one you get having connected nothing to the USB2 port.
Hi Tom,
I get you but this isn’t an issue that we have seen here nor have I had it reported to me either at my email address or to [email protected] so I need to start somewhere to find information to try to build some kind of package of information to be able to pass up to the software guys to log as a bug (assuming that it comes out to be a bug).
I’m keen to try to get to the bottom of issues that people report - especially fun new ones - and so far I have you and @KatJoe reporting it on here which is all I’ve seen (remember I don’t look through every posting that goes up here on the forums - only generally ones that I’m tagged in or get flagged up to us for some reason) so you guys will be my source of information to try to nail it down… 
Phil
Oh, ok sure, I’m abroad at the moment, but once I’m back I will share the details of all the drives I’ve tried and may even try more different ones if that helps but I tend to agree with KatJoe, the issue does not seem to be drive-specific.
For what it’s worth here is (myexperience noting I am not the best with network stuff) with my New Apex Rossini.
1- Roon was the quickest install, least headaches great interface and very few problems with drops off connections- terrific. That said I like its sound the least of the next options.
2- Audirvāna -great interface, great sound works for weeks with my network profvider , DCS support, Audirvāna Support and every forum I could just to get my MBP to consistently see the UPnP Rossini. Just days ago finally got that up and running. It seems apple loaded a new API? So Audirvāna see Rossini no problem. However lots of midsong drop off’s and reconnects for no reason…thought I was done……frustrating.
3- Set up a NAS with MinimServer and Moasic……for me a major pain in the rear to get it all up and running correctly. NO DOUBT the best sounding and least troublesome of all the above as far as connectivity and playback……I would be done BUT, there’s always a BUT the indexing sucks , I’m struggling to get the music files in as simple a layout as Roon or Audirvāna. Tags are driving me nuts making it a horror to find everything taking away from my music sessions pleasure. It some of those six of one half a dozen of the other kind of things….I regularly decide to just use moasic with the MinimServe files than I inevitably want to play an album I know I have and can’t find it……it gets buried somehow frustration comes back and I’m off to trying to get Audirvāna to work better again……Roon sound just too much a price for me so my search continues