Think about adding a Melco

Wow, this is the price! ¥660000
I wonder if there is also a Broadcom chip inside? :roll_eyes:

Ouch! Actually to me it just looks like the S100 plus LPS instead of the SMPS that comes with the S100. So in gbp terms a little over 2 grand for the LPS.

Well their local S100 costs ¥151800

Quite a big difference for the aluminum case and LPSU. You can probably estimate how much the S10 will cost under the Melco name)))

Means they build the gear for Melco?

yes, Melco and Dela are the same company. Dela is a local brand.

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Melco is a division of Buffalo Technology who are the largest computer peripherals manufacturer in Japan. Hence they have a lot of resources to draw upon even to the extent of making dedicated drives for music storage/replay ( so they advise).

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Actually, the original N1A Mk1 uses Seagate HDDs - models designed for 24/7 Video surveillance - I know this for a fact because I swapped my NA1’s drives out for solid-state ones. And I believe the N1Z Mk1’s Solid State Drives were Toshiba OEMs.

Things may be different for the Mk2 units, but I doubt it :grin:

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That is amusing Anup, as may also be the blurb ( I mean press release) when they increased the guarantee period for their streamers with storage :

Amazing what a stick on label may bring :wink:

NB: sadly my machine predates the offer.

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What do you use for optical isolation? You seem to have ER, have you tried using it as optical isolation?

I find the M1A mk1 EX Player port quite pleasant in sound, relative to an regular switch (in my case, this is Linksys WET610n wifi bridge + Farad S3 12V)
This is very unexpected for me, because Melco looks like the usual set of computer components.
But I do not hear the difference between a file on my WD NAS played via DLNA through Melco and the same file located on Melco and played directly to Bartok.

Then it would seem that a Melco may not be for you. Does the file sound the same with the WD connected to Bartok ( via a switch ?) without the Melco in the chain?

Without Melco in the chain, file from NAS and streaming sound a little worse than through Melco.
But file from WD with Melco in the chain sound same as from Melco directly.

Apparently all the streams going through Melco have been improved.

That’s interesting. I wasn’t expecting that.

Melco calls it Ethernet Purifier. Probably all outgoing traffic from the Player port is magically cleared :slight_smile:


I also have a suspicion that when playing files from Melсo directly, its disks and SATA-controller create additional noise, so I may not hear the advantages over playing from WD with Melco in the chain.
I also read that Melco recommends putting S100 switch after their Melco NAS. And I read the experience of one user who claimed that files from his Synology with LPSU and from Melco in the chain play better than the same files directly from Melco.

By the way, I was able to cheat the direct network mode Melco for Bartok. I gave out fixed IPs for Bartok and Melco, then added some albums from Melco to the Mosaic queue and pressed play. Then I disabled Melco’s LAN port and the playback continued. Since I can partially control the playback of Bartok with the remote control from my ATC SCA2 preamp, I could pause tracks and switch to the next or previous track. In this case, I easily managed the playback of the queue that I added to Bartok before the LAN port was turned off. I am still at a loss to say about any improvements, but for purists this could be the way. Of course, in this case, streaming will not be available, for this you will have to connect the LAN port back to the network.

Right now I’m using a TRENDnet 100Base-T Fiber Media Converter with (low-power) 100Base-FX SM-SFPs, directly into a (all SFP) MikroTik CRS-309 Ethernet Switch that I have dedicated for audio. Powered by Keces linear PSUs.

I’ve played around with my EtherRegen, it delivers zero benefits in my setup, so it’s just collecting dust somewhere in my storeroom :grin:

That “purifier” is delivered through discrete TDK Pulse Transformers for each Ethernet conductor pairs (so 4 transformers per Ethernet port), and through software bridging. Thats all. There’s no other magic :wink:

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Well, anyway I hear some improvements. The result surprised me a little.
And I also heard the difference when I added Farad S3 to my Wifi bridge, but with Melco the difference is even greater.
As much as I would not like to hear the opposite, or nothing at all))

I would recommend you blind test yourself, just to be sure you’re hearing what you think you’re hearing :laughing:

I’m not sure if my brain is working properly during DBT :slight_smile:

In addition, I always want to save my money and will not once again convince myself to spend additional funds if I do not see the point in this.

All the more reasons to do a simple blind test, doesn’t have to be a full-on DBT. Your hearing and brain will continue to function perfectly, only expectation bias would stop working :wink:

In any case, it’s your money, spending it on whatever brings you the most happiness :grin:

Hello, everyone. No activity on this thread for a bit, but maybe there will be!

Melco has updated its N10 to the N10/2 and now offers an SSD version alongside the HDD version. Possibly more importantly, “the head unit has both newly designed internal electronics hardware and new operating software, with improved PCB” and “a newly designed power management system in then Head Unit ensures stable and reliable operation.” Quotes from the Melco website.

I love my original N10, but I am curious about possible improvements, including what the SSD version sounds like.

Has anyone here had the chance to hear the N10/2 in either version? I would love some feedback. This thread helped me quite a bit when I made my N10 purchase a little over a year ago. Nothing but sweet tunes ever since!

The Melco S100 is actually a Buffalo BS-GS2016 switch in a fancy case. Buffalo own the Melco brand. There are other providers adapting the GS2016 switch with replacement clocks, power supplies to great effect.