Spotify’s Lossless Launch Ended Up Boosting Qobuz by 500%, According to the Company’s Director
https://www.headphonesty.com/2025/11/spotify-lossless-launch-boosting-qobuz/
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Having read the article and the underlying reasons for the growth I concluded that it refers to Qobuz USA only, I am unsure if the rest of the world ( or at least Qobuz serviced territories) has similar stories.
I am hearing the same issue with this album:
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Thank you, yes we have identified the root cause for this and our team is working on it.
It is indeed only 24-bit Lossless tracks from Spotify, so please try to avoid these for now. It will be fixed when we release our next update.
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Spotify Lossless support is now live for Network Bridge, Lina DAC, Lina DAC X, Bartók DAC, Bartók Headphone DAC, Rossini DAC, Rossini Player, Vivaldi Upsampler & Vivaldi One.
Varèse will follow as part of an upcoming software update.
Release notes can be found here.
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Update worked and THE LOST SOULS - Album by Thierry Lang | Spotify is streaming correctly now, thank you. No more distortions. A pity though that the bit-depth and sample rate are not shown in the display.
Hi James,
While the tracks under My Music in Tidal show in mosaic, unable to add tracks to my collections/favorites that was working previous to the integration breaking. Hope this will be addressed in the next release.
Thanks!
Spotify Lossless doesn’t go past 24/44.1. The perhaps most widespread streaming service wants to save on storage where smaller companies such as Qobuz don’t. A good reason to stay away from it.
As such, an indicator would just be useful to differentiate between 16 and 24bit.
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Spotify has six different quality levels (counting 16/44.1 and 24/44.1 as two). It would be good to see on the display what one is actually listening to.
I am not a Spotify subscriber so i cannot check but do you mean that Mosaic or the dCS DAC panel display will not show the incoming bit depth or sampling rate? I am amazed if this is the case because the dCS unit/app calculates these from what it receives rather than from information being sent by the streaming service.
Well, I take for granted one would always use lossless on a dCS device.
In all honesty, I don’t know Spotify enough and I’m not a subscriber, but is there still stuff to be found which is only available on lossy formats? I tought everything was now available as lossless variant.
That’s odd indeed. For Qobuz, it correctly displays bit depth and sample rates.
My suggestion is simply to establish parity with the other modes of play (qobuz, tidal, streaming from NAS etc.) which all show bitdepth and samplerate on the device display (as well as ugly things like an MQA logo if applicable).
Thanks but you seem to be saying that with Tidal lossless dCS is neither showing format rates being received/processed in Mosaic nor on the unit front panel display. Do I understand you correctly ?
If so this would seem to require escalation.
No, I am not referring to Mosaic at all. I am only talking about the information on the display on Rossini
Even if we disregard Mosaic you s"should" still be able to see the bit depth and sampling rate on the Rossini display when it is processing from Spotify. That would deal with your original issue that:
AFAIK this this information is calculated by the dCS unit sand hould appear. However 2lossy" files may still sow as e.g. 16/44.1 which is where the more detailed Mosaic showing any codec being used is preferable. If you say that no relevant information shows in Rossini at all allI think that @Phil may want to comment.
However you are inow mplying that there is such formation being shown in Mosaic. Why not refer to this ?
Hi All,
Rossini and Bartok don’t show bits/sample rate for Spotify as historically there was only one sample rate from Spotify so it wasn’t necessary but the display of the Spotify logo was.
The VPP does show the playback sample rate but that is something that is intrinsic to its basic functionality and the Rossini and Bartok do not have that same information display.
The sample rate and bit depth for Spotify isn’t shown is the Mosaic app but be aware that there are requirements and restrictions on what data has to be displayed (and what data cannot / must not be displayed) when agreements are entered into with other parties and we do have to make sure that we fit in with those requirements, I’m not aware of the Spotify requirements offhand (and wouldn’t be able to discuss them if I did) but it may, for example, be possible that indicating whether playback is lossless or not (which would be shown by the playback format / sample rate / bit depth being displayed) is not allowed…
Phil
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Hi @iluvmusic
Can you please contact us at [email protected] to follow this up as we have not been able to replicate this issue so far so ideally we would like to get more information from you as to exactly what you are doing and seeing…
Phil
Thanks Phil for the explanation. It unfortunately implies that there might not be a solution in a future revision.
I see. Now that would be a grave limitation.
@PAR I am not implying anything about Mosaic. Mosaic does not do playback for Spotify, it hands you off to the Spotify app, from which I can then play using Spotify connect.
@Phil Within the Spotify app, the little green connect indicator leads to a popup that shows the streaming quality incl. differentiating between 16 and 24 bit lossless
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