That is also my preference…
I know what you mean, but I have become accustomed to being satisfied with just looking at the artwork in Mosaic (or Roon).
They make very good quality stuff, although I’m not familiar with that particular model of sofa…
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Yes - there is definitely a technique! …but once you’re “in” they are amazing. The Alcantara material we also find super resilient to cats and general life!
…and in our case dog proof
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It’s probably their most iconic design, been around since the 1973 (a very good year!) - you’ve DEFINITELY seen them 
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Ah, yes, I have indeed!
I’ve made a mental note to investigate the pricing in HK… 
Oops, we’re veering rather OT…
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Agreed !!!
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I also looked at using the Togo. My wife voted against it for height. We then went de sede and i found it overall too uncomfortable for long term listening. Now using b&b. Its low and my wife finds it more practical for sleeping. Nothing it seems is perfect. B
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Enjoy - I have Dream Petite V16 Bi-wire and they’re fabulous
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Follow-up from Showing (off) your dCS setup - description and photos - #1494 by Ermos
Most of the job has been finalised, and this is the result:
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Dedicated Mains Spur with Schneider RCBO (residual-current circuit breaker with overcurrent protection, in Europe and Australia, and a GFCI breaker, for ground fault circuit interrupter, in the United States and Canada)
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Belden 19364 portable cordage in-wall to:
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Furutech FP-SWS-D(Gold) Double Schuko Outlet
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dCS Rossini APEX Dac
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dCS Rossini Clock
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dCS Remote (The Plank)
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Apogee Wyde Eye clock cables
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Audioquest Niagara 3000 power system
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Simaudio Moon 760A amp
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Benchmark LA4 preamp
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Bowers & Wilkins 805 D4 Signature midnight blue speakers
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Bowers & Wilkins FS-805 D4 dedicated stands
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Audioquest Rocket 88 speaker cables bi-wire
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15 kilos of dry sand to fill the stands
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Cisco Catalyst 2960 24 and 8 ports switches
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ACT Cat 6A U/UTP AWG24 CU ethernet cables
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Audioquest Hurricane and Monsoon power cords
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Audioquest Fire and Water XLR cables
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Audioquest Tower 12V trigger cables
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NAD T778 AV Surround Sound Receiver
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Bowers & Wilkins HTM72 S3 center speaker
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Isoacoustics ZaZen I isolation platform under it
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Bowers & Wilkins 805 D3 surround speakers
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Bowers & Wilkins FS-805 D4 stands
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15 kilos of dry sand to fill the stands
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Audioquest Rocket 22 bi-wire surround speaker cables with AudioQuest SureGrip 300 spades, bananas and cable termination pants
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Sony Bravia OLED XR-55A90J
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Sony UBP-X800M2 Blu-ray player
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Audioquest Carbon 48 HDMI cables
Forgot to mention:
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Plex Server on Windows (22 TB)
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Roon Remote on Samsung Galaxy Tab S9+
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dCS Mosaic just for updates and settings
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Qobuz Studio subscription
Coming up:
- Putting the headphones extension:
- dCS Lina headphone amp
- HifiMan Susvara headphones
- Abyss AB-1266 TC headphones
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Replacing the NAD T778 with a AV processor + multichannel amp
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After removing the coffee table (thanks @AndrewS
): a new rug
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for AV processor and amp, I highly recommend Trinnov Alt16/32 paired with their Amplitude 16
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They look the business! What length are they?
2m, just long enough. Previous ones were 8 feet which is a bit easier.
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It sure is! My issue is, my left speaker is about 1.75m from the rack, the right one is about 5m from the rack!
I think I may be guilty of repeating myself though maybe in another thread .
So you need a 1.75m length (or 2m in reality) and a 5m length or 2x 5m length. There is unlikely to be any audible penalty from the mixed pair unless there may be technical reasons such as early Naim amps.
The double 5m lengths just means a surplus behind one speaker.
A problem may arise in the future if you wish to sell the odd lengths on (especially given some brands’ cost that may make this attractive). It would be serendipitous to find a buyer looking for such a combination.
This is a choice that cannot be overlooked as cables are essential. You will have to make the decision.
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Pete,
I respectfully disagree with this and would definitely be running speaker cables of the same length.
Same problem here - and agreed
I need 4.5m for my right speaker and about 2m for my left near the rack. I have a pair of 4.5 m cables. I have no scientific information to back up my decision other than from my Naim days.
@keiserrg and @glevethan if we were considering a 2m cable on one side and a 50m cable on the other I might agree with you. However the cables under consideration are ( as cables go) short. The addition or loss of a couple of meters on one side is not going to change the electrical characteristics to such an extent thatt that it becomes audibly significant.
This does, however, assume that the cable (or amplifier and speaker) has electrical characteristics that are reasonable for the job in the first place and not only marginally acceptable. As , from earlier postings , @Merlot52 has been thinking about both a top end amplifier and cables I assume this to be the case ( though I guess there may be exceptions).
If a 2m speaker cable sounds significantly different to a 5m length of the same then this logically impacts on how the cable behaves at any other length thus implying that 2x3m lengths must sound different to 2x6m ones, for example. Therefore there should be an optimum length for any given cable and the user’s system configuration must be arranged to allow its use. How do you find out the optimum length as for some reason cable manufacturers continue to supply the same cable in all sorts of lengths 
There are some odd cases where amplifier and cable were designed to be considered from a technical viewpoint as a single entity. And yes, Gregg, Naim were ( still are?) one of them. Julian Vereker was not rained as an electrical engineer but in aeronautics. He therefore considered aspects of his amps differently ( freshly?) and decided that as sufficient inductance was required for stability this could be provided by the cable ( as it had to be there anyway) rather than by additional circuit components. However it became necessary to design a cable that provided the appropriate level of inductance resulting in NAC A4 ( 5 was later). a minimum length of 3m was advised. So, yes, your experience was correct but that does not mean it can always be applied to other products.
I think from other postings,David is wondering if he may save money on expensive cables by minimising one length and/or may not want the aesthetic penalty of excess cable on one side.
I wonder to what extent equal length cables ( assuming everything else is equal) is really necessary or is is it just that we envisage stereo system configuration as necessarily symmetrical in every sense? BTW, I too use 2x5M interconnects ( I do not use speaker cables) even though this results in spare wire on one side.
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I’m with @keiserrg and @glevethan on this. Stick to the same length speaker cables.
The interdependence between a Speaker’s complex load, the Cable’s impedance, and the Amplifier’s output characteristics is quite complex, even small changes in the Speaker cable lengths could become sonically significant.
There’s no way to know for sure unless in-situ measurements are done. Since hardly anyone is going to actually measure it, the only alternative is to actually listen for differences, by which token you’re going to need equal length speaker cables anyway 
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I like your conclusion which reflects reality for most of us. We cannot measure to confirm so we rely on subjectivity or intuition.
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