Yes - this is the challenge - I need a preamp for my deck.
I’ve not tried the Rossini direct into the A80 - but did try previous HiFi Rose rig into it - it’s a demo that took 10 seconds to reveal how huge a difference having a proper Pre-Amp makes. Of course the dCS and the Rose will be at different levels of quality in terms of their analogue outputs, but still.
Thanks - super interesting stuff - I’ll stick with a preamp for the reasons of having a Linn LP12!
Really interested in your views on the DG68 though - I’ve read reviews all of which are absolutely glowing….your experience is really good?
I’m not sure I follow this point though? …separate the streamer from the upsampler? …not possible in the Rossini? …would need a separate standalone streamer like an Aurender?
I wonder if you tried the Accuphase DC1000 DAC?
…it’s supposed to be very very good, albeit a closed box solution in terms of configuration.
…noted on the cables - thanks. I’m end to end XLR on the rack - I settled on Transparent Reference and being honest have never tried anything else. I managed to get a couple of used sets (they are super expensive new - but as with all cables, they are available much cheaper ex demo) but will investigate your recommendations!
You could use the analog line inputs of the DG-68. No need for the C-3900 anymore.
(BTW, my C-3850 sounded ok with map 1, but lost much of the room with map 3, so it is not really neutral. I use map 3 to go directly to my A-250).
If you ever heared a system with electronic room correction (e.g. DG-68, Trinnov), you’ll never go back.
You would need a separate streamer in addition to the Rossini (e.g. dCS Network Bridge, if you can find a used one).
I have a DC-901, which was sonically about on par with my dCS 954 DAC (‘pro version’ of Elgar, or rather Elgar was HIFI version of dCS 954).
Instead of going for DC-1000, which did not solve my problem for need of multiple digital inputs (on the DC-901 one could digitally insert the DG between input and output: Source > DG > DAC)
I went for the Vivaldi DAC plus Network Bridge. i still want to get a black Vivaldi Upsampler.
Audioquest Dragon (as well as my older WEL Signature are terribly expensive. That’s why I went for Accuphase Class A monoblocks; the question was: do i want to spend 50k for 4x 2m speaker cables plus about 25k for a stereo amp, or 25k for 4x 1m speaker cable and 50k for two monoblocks.
And last but not least:
congrats to your Bowers / Accuphase combo; that is exactly the sound I like
(and for my dCS dealer, my Bowers / Accuphase combo is a reference he says)
If you’d like to have more detailed info, do not hesitate to PM me.
You cannot use line level inputs for a turntable without an external phonostage ( which he does not currently have.). The output from a cartridge will be too low to drive a line level input and you also require RIAA eq.
Further ,with no pre-amp and direct connection of the DAC to power amp, even with an external phonostage, every time Matt wants to change from digital to LP he would have to rewire the connection which will be inconvenient especially as thermal stability will need to be achieved before listening.This also assumes that the phonostage provides a volume control.
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Basically if you run digital and a turntable you need to use a preamp for practical reasons.
He does have a phono stage called Revolver. The C-3900 is line only and is and cannot be equipped with a phono stage. As I said, input switching can be done with the DG-68.
No. You can do with a phono equalizer / preamp (neccessary) and an ADC to feed your digital system.
( I know that phono addicts may not like this idea, but there is no other way, if you want to use electronic room correction, which is digital only.)
BTW I own an SME 20/3, SME V, Accuphase AC-6, Accuphase C-37. As ADCs I have a choice between DG-68, dCS 904, Nagra VI and some RME.
Been a while since I posted my system, spent 18 months trying out various amplifiers to replace the Luxmans, after a number of dealer demo days and home loans I have settled on Esoteric.
System as it stands
Left Rack
Oppo 205
Sky Q Mini
Marantz AV10
Marantz AMP10
Right Rack
Technics SL-1000R + Dynavector Te Kaitora Rua
dCS Rossini Apex
dCS Rossini Clock
LHY SW6 + LHY AS6 connected with an Amphenol DAC
Speakers are a pair of Martin Logan ESL13a on IsoAcoustic GAIA 2 feet. Centre speaker is a Martin Logan ESL-C18. Sides/Rears are tripoles - M&K S150T. Atmos is a middle pair of Monitor Audio C2L 9” drivers.
TV is a 77inch LG OLED C1 (to be replaced by a 98inch make/model undecided soonish, the 77inch will replace a 65inch LG OLED CX in the bedroom which I’ll give away to a mate/friend/employee as usual).
Subwoofers are a pair of SVS SB17 Ultras
Speaker and signal cables are Inakustik 2405
Network cables are Belden 1305A aka CatSnake with the shield floating (i.e. disconnected both ends)