My K50 is connected to the Rossini (and Meridian 818) via ethernet.
I wondered whether moving the K50 so it sits the other side of the optical fibre that delivers the internet connection to this switch would make things better or worse, but with two young children it’s not very high on my list of priorities!
Lee,
thanks- I tested this switch as well- it sounds really outstanding. Did you get it up& running with Mosaic or do you test it with roon only? (Two dealer here incl myself couldn’t get it working with Mosaic because IGMP issues- Ansuz used a D-Link switch engine). That was the reason I bought an Innuos switch. (As an outcome, they do not recommend Ansuz switches with dCS.)
I hope the new version of Ansuz’s switch line (A3, D3 etc) is non-blocking!
“What we found is that, the main limitation that we actually see in streaming performance is due to the fact that when you have a streamer and you’re connected, you also connect to the world-wide-web of noise.”
That explains why Ansuz OEMs the D-Link Ethernet Switch (and marks it up 10,000% for just their PSU) - they don’t seem to know how Routing/Switching works, and equates it with AC power or Water distribution
“One caveat that is with the LAN is that the signal is floating, it’s a twisted pair inside some shield, but the signal is simply floating around.”
Seriously?? The guy doesn’t know what a differential signal is?!? If he’s the main designer of Ansuz products, I’d stay as far away as possible!
Anup,
I’ll try to test the new generation, it could be (?) that they will not use the D-Link parts internally. I know it’s hard to believe but the switch sounds great But here we’ve been already in an earlier discussion
A man without experience on the product is a man without an opinion on the product.
I went to the factory in Aalborg and saw the switches being built. They have mini Tesla coils inside for noise reduction and I believe that is what makes the device effective.
Well, not really true in this case - as has been stated elsewhere, here the ethernet protocol (hardware and software) was designed to deal with lossless data transfer and noise that exceeds the requirements of audio. This is the held view (reality really) of the engineering community. Our digital lifestyle would fall apart otherwise. There is absolutely nothing we as audiophiles know about networking that hasn’t been researched by networking professionals over the past couple of generations.
Just for fun, I did one of the worst things I could think of to test the impact of ethernet switches on my Bartok. I took the cheapest switch I could find with a crapy switching supply and installed it right next my Bartok. First thought - Noise noise noise! But hand on heart, I could hear no difference in sound quality vs running cat5e into my Bartok direct from my fibe modem.
Given that I’m a dCS owner who has saved for a very, very, very long time to acquire a dCS product, I feel it is important that prospective dCS customers know that they can enjoy their dCS DAC without compromise with simple and affordable networking hardware connected by certified unshielded Cat5e or Cat6 cables.
Everyone is free to pursue what brings them joy, this is home entertainment after all!
Of course @imprezap2. My point is simple - anyone new to dCS who searches this forum needs to know that all they need to do is connect an unshielded certified Cat5e or Cat6 cable from their router into their dCS DAC to get it to perform as the manufacturer intended.
In general, the arguments on here (including my own) are not coming from people who are qualified in the spheres of sound quality and circuit design (in both the audiophile and ethernet domains - they are, after all, two different domains).
Most of us are therefore reliant on what we hear - whether it is on dCS or other Hi-Fi gear - but see my earlier comment about dCS being especially good at eradicating noise from this interface.
Swenson’s experience of designing high-end Hi-Fi circuits, ethernet switches and PHY chips seems relevant and, while he’s not on this forum, appears to know what he is talking about. If you disagree with him, then it would seem to make sense to take it up with him on one of the forums he uses - a link from here, so we can follow the conversation, would be fantastic
For my part, I will try to refrain from commenting further as repeating what I’ve said previously (in response to a repeated argument) serves no purpose in moving this argument forward.