If you have some new insights into the Innuos platform/architecture, please share and I’d be happy to discuss. Otherwise, please feel free to interpret in any way you like 
Thanks, I feel liberated.
I don’t have time for the marketing nonsense one reads about some devices which suggests that somehow a ground-up design is inherently superior to a design using proven components. It makes sense as justification for a device’s price, I guess (cost of R&D, small batch manufacturing etc) but that’s about it.
I don’t have time for folk who suggest that anything other than cost-plus-margin pricing, which is a minimum survival strategy for any business in any sector, is the only pricing strategy which can be justified. It completely ignores the value the product delivers to the end consumer who is quite capable of making an adult decision about whether the bang is worth the buck, in our case sonically.
If you’ve heard one of these Innuos devices and have feedback on how well it performs and whether the value proposition makes sense to you then do share!
Peace and love
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Spoken to a guy that has the innuos statement and apparently the streamer port is for adding a streamer to the statement if you don’t want to use the one it has.
So it looks like it’s an input rather than like the melco player port.
He said it was usb out to a dac
That’s not the case Duncan, the Streamer port on the Innuos is a standard Ethernet port that can be connected to any Network Streamer, just like the “Player” port on the Melcos.
The thing to keep in mind is that all these “Audiophile Server” platforms use standard motherboards from suppliers like Supermicro, with retrofitting of LPSUs, re-clockers, and whatnot, but they’re all essentially standard Mini-ITX Intel compute motherboards with standard Ethernet ports, running some version of Linux. They’re not custom embedded systems.
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Just saying what he said.
Not sure if you say connect the streamer port to say a rossini if you can play the stored music through it
We have Innuos users here, even of the Statement . Perhaps one or more would like to comment?
Yes you could. Innuos integrates the AssetUPnP Server into their platform.
Hi Anup,
This is a possible setup:
Router-------LAN 1Innuos-----LAN 2Innuos------Rossini
With that, you can play stored music or stream from internet through Innuos.
(not sure, if that is the question 
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Yes I’m aware, same as the Melco in fact (when placed into Bridge mode). It was Duncan who was asking, not me
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So you can use the player port and it will play all the strored music to your dac then, just like a melco ?
If so it does look like innuos need to look at how they word the instructions on this in the manual, as it looks like owners haven’t got a clue how it works as well.
I would also like to know if it will stream from this port using the built in streamer or is that just usb out like the melco.
So you can use the player port and it will play all the strored music to your dac then, just like a melco ?
yes, you can use the LAN Streamer port (here on the far right in the picture)
If so it does look like innuos need to look at how they word the instructions on this in the manual, as it looks like owners haven’t got a clue how it works as well.
can’t comment on that
I would also like to know if it will stream from this port using the built in streamer or is that just usb out like the melco.
you can connect your DAC via USB port on the Innuos or you can stream like I mention above with Streamer port. USB port is a dedicated port with some voodoo build in. I prefer streaming via Ethernet with my Rossini
One point: the setup defines the controll SW (f.ex you see the streaming endpoint in the Innups app called Sense - it’s pretty good by the way…)
I have my router connected to the LAN port on my Innuos, and my Lina connected to the STREAMER port on the Innuos. But I don’t think the use of the STREAMER port is required. It’s just convenient for my setup. Per Innuos, so long as your streaming DAC and the Zen or Statement device are “connected on the same network subnet” you can stream to your DAC from the Innuos file database, or streaming services, or other file servers on your network. I can use Innuos Sense to do so, or I can use Mosaic to do so. I prefer the functionality of Sense, but either way you get the same error checked and corrected data going into the streaming DAC.
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Hi guys,
OK so this whole two ethernet ports on a server thing seems to be getting quite messy here so lets cover it quickly.
Not all audio servers are using off the shelf motherboards but some definitely are - I know that a number of them are using “custom” boards but that’s a separate discussion / debate and the discussion here is LAN and Streamer or LAN and Player ports.
There are two main uses for the streamer / player port in this setup…
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Where there is one ethernet cable to the HiFi stack and the user doesn’t want to put in a network switch, the second port can in effect be the server acting as an Ethernet switch and providing a second port to connect to.
This can be touted by the server manufacturer as having sonic benefits such as the server isolating the streamer from all the network activity that is going on on the main network but that is a function of a network switch anyway (network switches filter out unnecessary traffic from their ports, network hubs just blitz out everything on all ports but they no longer exist in the real world) so take that claim with that knowledge in your shirt pocket.
You also need to be aware that this means that the server also has to pass through any Ethernet traffic that the streamer pulls from the network (such as from the internet) so all that has to be handled by the processor on the server - it’s rare that these instances have dedicated Ethernet switch hardware. -
If you are using a server and streamer in a setup where there isn’t an outgoing connection from the server to a router (yes, it is VERY unlikely and contrived nowadays but it USED to happen) then SOMETIMES the server can be set up to act as a DHCP server as well so that the streamer can then access the UPnP server on the server. Of course unless you are controlling the streamer from an IR remote using its own built in display then normally you would have some kind of app for control that would need wireless connectivity which obviously you don’t get here.
For me, I wouldn’t ever use a player or streamer port on a server …
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Yes definitely, my view is you may not be getting a lot of feedback because I believe and I count myself as one who is confused by UPnP? Roon, Mosaic etc. Functionality aside (the marketing materials of each do explain) The actual connection benefit SQ wise more understood I believe will generate the interest and time in the option to want more?