Guards! Take this man to the snake oil pit now and let him rot.
QED Reference Ethernet Cable- installed it today- highly recommended with a fantastic price/SQ ratio. I use it from my roon core to the switch!
How does it compare to the TQ cable you had, price/SQ wise?
I still have the TQ from switch to dCS and the QED from roon to switch. TQ is better- no question- it has more body, more 3D. The TQ is very stiff- I hate it (have not too much space for cabeling)…Imho it’s even better than the Ansuz for 2600€ (I have on loan here). QED is a bit more “detailled” and more transparent. I replaced audioquest cable with it. TQ price is roughly 4x (?) the price of QED. The QED is easy to move and the connectors (Telegärtner) are freakin’ good!!
QED Reference Ethernet Cable has Ferrite insulation.
Do you use scotch tape with RJ45 connector on the transmitter side?
Torben
PS: What is the cable diameter?
Hi Torben,
no, I use it as it is- so no scotch tape. Diameter is roughly 9mm but easy to connect. Frankly, this cable was a blind shot but I will not give it back ![]()
9mm
Probably do to Ferrite insulation ![]()
Is it easy to bend the cable?
Torben
PS: I have been thing about Furutech LAN-8 NCF
It’s flexible enough imho. The TQ isn’t.
I find they do make a difference, but for me the difference is more to the fact that they either sound good or bad.
With that i mean an expensive cable can sound very much the same as a cheaper one, but i do find the more expensive cables always sound good over the cheaper and some midrange one’s i have tried, but i have a very cheap cable that i can’t really tell any difference if i swap it with my expensive one.
Strange things ethernet cables
I have tried a few different ethernet cables of various Categories. I have stuck with BJC and Meicord for now. I can’t detect any difference between the two. Some time ago I replaced a generic cat7 from the router in my house to my music room, around 20m, with Meicord. The difference we easy to hear. The sound was cleaner and the soundstage opened up, so that stayed.
Most recently I tried a Designer Cable. That just sounded thick and heavy and didn’t last long. I really want to try the TQ as most of my other cables are TQ and they’ve always worked very well in my system.
My ethernet system runs from the wall to an eero router, to an 8 Switch and out to a Bartok and Roon Nucleus. No USB connection to the Bartok. Somewhere I read shielded ethernet cables to a dCS component wasn’t the best. Sent away for some unshielded Cat5 blue jeans cables to replace the Audioquest Vodkas. The SQ improved nicely. I put the Vodka’s back in everywhere except from the switch to the Bartok. All good now. Just no shield to the dCS unit.
AQ vodka has a floating shield
Floating means attached at one end? Usually the output end? Apparently and in my experience, no shielding on an ethernet cable attaching to a dCS DAC is best.
I might add, there is no shielding on the ethernet cable, actually FIOS fiber optic, coming into the house and none on the copper ethernet cable Frontier installed running from the FIOS converter box through the house and coming out of the wall. Not suggesting what that means only that it is.
I am not quit sure
If you take Blue Jeans Cable’s Cat 6A based on Belden’s 10GX series cable, with a floating shield design - disconnected from the plugs at both ends.
If you than look at the web-site from AIM:
Drain Wire: Asymmetric Structure
Thanks to the asymmetric design with which the drain wires of the end connectors are asymmetrically installed (one is ground while the other is not).
Torben
If you need shielding cable makre sure that the RJ45 connector on the transmitter side is stripped with scotch tape
Torben
Yes one end
Why don’t we just ask ChatGPT ![]()
What would the best type of ethernet for audio?
Ethernet is a widely used networking technology that is typically used for transmitting data over a local area network (LAN). However, Ethernet can also be used for audio applications, such as streaming music or transmitting audio signals between devices.
When it comes to choosing the best type of Ethernet for audio, it depends on the specific application and requirements. Some factors to consider include:
- Bandwidth: The amount of data that can be transmitted over Ethernet is determined by the bandwidth of the cable. Higher bandwidth cables can transmit more data, which is important for high-quality audio applications.
- Latency: Latency is the delay between sending a signal and receiving a response. For audio applications, low latency is important to ensure that the audio is synchronized and does not experience delays or dropouts.
- Noise: Ethernet cables can be susceptible to noise and interference, which can impact the quality of the audio signal.
- Length: The length of the Ethernet cable can also affect the quality of the audio signal, with longer cables being more susceptible to attenuation and signal degradation.
In general, it is recommended to use a high-quality Ethernet cable that meets the requirements for the specific audio application. For example, if you are streaming high-quality audio, a Cat6 or Cat7 Ethernet cable may be recommended to provide sufficient bandwidth and reduce latency. Additionally, shielded Ethernet cables can help reduce noise and interference.
Torben
Generally a very bad idea. At frequencies that Ethernet runs, that makes them into an antenna. You’ll be inviting EMI/RFI. ![]()
@Anupc - That I don’t want ![]()
But if S/FTP cable is used than the cable is shielded against EMI/RFI. That way you would not get “antenna”? Or?
But if this is not a good idee:
If a CAT cable based on S/FTP - PiMF (paired in metal foil) - is used, than the only way to secure that noise - from transmitter to destination - is not entering a streamer/DAC - is to use scotch tape (RJ45 connector on the transmitter side is stripped with scotch tape)?
THX
Torben
