Dartzeel out of business?

Audio Systems
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Coincidentally I still have the top of the line Sony ES cassette machine of the time and many tapes of live concerts ( Proms etc.) However I cannot raise enough enthusiasm to reinstate it nor do I really have the room.

This topic of tape really deserves its own thread.

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Yeah.

I don’t know this supposedly “journalist” but the “everybody knows” or “anyone can verify by himself” arguments he claims here are clearly similar to ones found in fake news


Unless you share your actual sources now, backfire will be coming to you quite fast Mr Gregory


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I’m darTZeel owner and the time i need assistance I wrote to DZ and HervĂ© himself reply in 1 or 2 days.

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Why? Thats dirt cheap compared to the UHA decks.

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Looks like Dartzeel is quitting after all.
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Old news at this point, Richard. Being a DZ owner and having read literally hours’ worth of posts on this matter (unfortunately the majority just trolls “fencing with opinions”) my summary is as follows:

  • No evidence has been presented that DZ is actually “out of business” as claimed by Roy Gregory in his post on WhatsBestForum. HervĂ© Delatraz, founder and CEO of DZ has strenuously denied this. Right now it seems to one man’s word against another.
  • Roy subsequently claimed that DZ had defaulted on repayments related to Swiss Government COVID loans, that this had been subject to a court judgment and was “widely known”. He has not presented any evidence of this and WBF members in Switzerland have searched the public records which are apparently updated daily and found no evidence to support this whatsoever.
  • The two key questions people are searching for answers to are 1. Will DZ survive as a going concern and develop/sell new products? and 2. Will owners of current DZ products be able to get them serviced in the future?
  • HervĂ© posted a public statement on DZ’s FaceBook page claiming that DZ is “more alive than ever and legendary customer service remains unchanged” but that “Current production of the NHB, CTH and LHC series will only be made on demand”. (Hence taking down the website and replacing with a contact form.)
  • HervĂ© also says DZ “will change its paradigm by focusing on new concepts, which for now will remain undisclosed for obvious reasons”.

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That’s about it. DZ is clearly not in the best of health, but whether or not they are “quitting after all” remains to be seen.

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Thanks for sharing the information @struts001
Time will tell what the future of DZ gone be.

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Unfortunately internet he-said-she-said back and forth can do an awful lot of harm to people that don’t necessarily deserve it. Although personally I have no affiliation to Dartzeel beyond a couple of bits of their kit sometimes being used in the dCS dem room I REALLY hope that we don’t lose a fellow manufacturer.

Speaking only from my perspective I would say that if anyone in the high end audio business was looking to maximise the amount of money they make they’d not be in the high end audio business - they’d just apply themselves to something else that gives a better return on their efforts - so, even though a business has to support itself, just being in this industry is a passion and to wish to follow your passion enough to make it your livelihood is a very special thing. It’s a passion not only for the company owners and designers of the kit but for all of us who work in it and if any of that passion is extinguished, for whatever reason, then we are all the poorer.

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Hear hear!